UPDATE: good news from Koz. See comments in this post for details. ihower++.
I enjoy Rails and think it is a really promising framework, but the Rails core team really make me sad about the country_select recently.
I do not want to take this issue personally, but I agree every word yllan said in his blog post totally. Let’s face it, you can not solve a problem by putting it into another box. The problem is still there, and “good default” is the only rescue. I think “Avoid Preferences” is also true in the open source development.
How other open source projects take this issue:
- FreeBSD:
- Debian
It is good when there is a “standard” we can follow, but sometimes the standard might be wrong or unsuitable, so we should fix or adapt it if we can.
eltiare said in the comment of this sad commit:
Respecting everything that others want is quite an impractical order on a global scale. If you try to make everyone happy, someone is not going to like it. Since the list is scraped from another source, one cannot individually maintain country names without it turning into a nightmare to maintain. It’s not political, it’s practical.
Yes, we know it is very hard to get respect from others, but we just can not stop trying. I also have to say, it is not practical at all to just give user a bad default which does not work well.
Dear Rails programmers, if you would like to give some respects to us kindly, you may use our version instead. Many thanks.
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Lets keep the discussion here purely technical. I’ll be deleting any comments that are about selecting the color of the bikeshed.
还是谈论些技术吧， 狭隘的民族主义是与我们无关的……
KDE Team’s choice: “Country/Region Names” instead of “Conuntry Names”
First, I’m sorry, I can’t read chinese so I can’t follow some of the comments here.
I’ve posted on this on my personal site: http://www.koziarski.net/archives/2008/9/24/countries-and-controversies
I’d appreciate any recommendations you have on the issue. Especially the potential of choosing another list of countries.
[...] 上面也已經不准許任何人留言討論。英文文筆佳的 yllan 跟 hlb 先後寫了一篇英文 Blog 來表達我們的抗議，我也根據 lukhnos 的意見重新建了 [...]
Taiwan is a country, there is no doubt for that… Think about it. If Taiwan isn’t a country then why Taiwan has its own government,flags,economy and etc…. That a country is to supposed to have it. If Taiwan isn’t a country then it’s a bullshit. I think people get confused is because of Chinese givernment. Because Chinese government doesn’t want Taiwan to be a country so they bribed almost all of the countries in the world. If it’s not true maybe you can search on internet or check histroy about why Chinese government did.
AND WHAT CHIENESE GOVERNMENYT DID IT TAIWAN IS STILL A COUNTRY RIGHT NOW SO DO NOT SAY TAIWAN IS NOT A COUNTRY. I KNOW MOST CHINESE SAID TAIWAN ISN’T A COUNTRY AND I KNOW WHY, BECAUSE CHINESE GOVERNMENT BRAINWASHED ALL PEOPLE IN CHINA. AND THEY MADE MILLION OF EXCUSES THAT TAIWAN ISN’T A COUNTRY ESPECIALLY IN NEWS. SOMETIMES YOU CAN’T JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT NEWS SAID. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TRUST YOUR INSTINCT ALL THE TIME IN YOUR LIFE.
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